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Everything Happens with Kate Bowler

Small Talk Survivors with Sarah Wildman

Everything Happens with Kate Bowler

Everything Happens Studios

Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture

4.84.7K Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

What happens when you live on a planet where grief rewrites the language of everyday life? Kate Bowler speaks with writer and New York Times editor Sarah Wildman about her daughter Orli’s incandescent life and staggering courage while living with terminal cancer. Together they explore the limits of positivity culture, the fierce tenderness of caregiving, the sacred discomfort of truth-telling, and the love that carries us when nothing adds up. This is a conversation for anyone who has lived inside the ache—and chosen joy anyway.

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0:00.0

This episode is brought to you by Mill. Did you know that most household foods end up in landfills?

0:05.7

And sadly, this household food waste is a major driver of climate change. But the good news

0:11.5

is food waste is a problem we can actually solve. And I do that by using my food recycler, Mill.

0:18.1

Mill is the cleanest, easiest way to prevent food waste at home,

0:21.7

eliminating all the pain points associated with old-fashioned compost pails and smelly garbage cans,

0:27.5

and it makes keeping food out of the trash as easy as just dropping it in. You can toss in

0:32.4

like almost any kind of food scraps, like even meat, bones, dairy, and then that's it. Mill turns those scraps into

0:39.1

nutrient-rich grounds that you can use in your garden. And the best part, it's totally odorless.

0:44.9

I've been using my mill for a couple months now. I didn't realize how much I would love not taking

0:48.8

out the trash every other day. But you have to live with Mill to really get it. Good thing you can

0:53.6

try it risk-free and get an

0:55.4

exclusive offer using code Kate at mill.com slash Kate. That's mill.com slash Kate.

1:02.1

This episode is brought to you by Primrose Schools. Who children become is as important as what they know.

1:09.5

That belief is at the heart the Primrose School's

1:11.7

Balance Learning approach, which weaves character development into lessons every day.

1:16.6

Balance learning goes beyond academics to nurture traits that help children learn what it means

1:20.9

to be a good friend, how to show respect for others, why it's important to keep promises

1:25.7

and more, all in a warm environment filled with

1:28.6

loving teachers. You know I love a space where kindness isn't a bonus, it's baked in, where little

1:34.3

people are learning to be brave and gentle and silly and strong, where they aren't just filling

1:38.8

their brains but growing their hearts. It makes me want to go back to preschool. A little snack time

1:43.7

wouldn't hurt either.

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