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Olivia Troy is here!

Yay!

I've just never thought I'd be saying, yay, Liz Cheney and whoever worked for Pence and George, so you worked with me.

Yay!

Olivia, lots of well, first of all, your op-ed was great to your former boss, Mike Pence.

I mean, it is, and you put it best, I believe at the very end of the op-ed.

You just said, you know, do you love your country? More than, you know, basically you're lust for power, right?

Yeah, and that's what it's really about. Especially when it comes to the likes of Mike Pence and all of these,

you know, you're more traditional Republicans, I would say, whatever is left of that. I don't even know that I can use that term anymore because I feel like the Republican party is essentially dead for what we knew it, right?

Yeah.

But that's it. It's just put yourself and vision aside for one second and look at the greater picture and look what's happening here.

And just care about your country more than anything else right now.

Yes, and this is you quoting Liz Cheney.

You said this moment requires us, as Liz Cheney has said, to love our country even more, and you might, Pence, need to decide what you love more of the country or your last chance of political power.

And as you've tried to tell him, as someone that seems to have served him loyally, you know, you said on Twitter, you said Trumpian Republicans are never going to like you,

which leaves telling the truth about the election in January 6th as the only option.

And this was your note to your former boss.

He seems diluted in that way that he is not going to be president that the Trumpers all hate him as a traitor.

So, you know, talk to me about what the genesis of writing this piece and if you think he read it and what his reaction would be.

Yeah, look, I thought a lot about it.

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