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Morrie Blackman, CEO of premise data. Host of the Great Minds Think Data Podcast. Good morning, Morrie.

Good morning, Stephanie. Thank you for having me.

Well, thank you for coming on because I have to say it is one of those things and I know probably you will tell us this is early as they say it's lifetimes away 2024.

I'm still sort of astounding to a lot of us. So in this poll, when you say dead heat, Trump said 53, Biden said 47.

Correct. In your poll.

Well, we, statistically it's insignificant. So it's really 50 50.

Right. Now, were you shocked? Or what did you think when you?

I was to be honest, Stephanie, I was stunned. I mean, there was a couple things that really surprised me.

But the fact that they were still in a dead heat despite all of Trump's issues and in really despite, you know, all of Biden's issues that you would think of.

One way heavier on the other. I think the key here that I found that I was so stunned by as it relates to Republicans is the fact that in spite of all Trump's issues, he's still crushing Mike Pence and Rhonda Santis and a theoretical matchup.

It's like, what are these people thinking?

Yes.

It's just pretty stunning to me when I look at this result.

I think the other part that's really quite interesting from a Republican point of view is that Biden and Trump are running even in my poll, the premise poll.

But what we found is that in spite of the fact that he's that Trump is beating Pence and to Santa so badly on the other end, he's actually performing up there.

And it's in a theoretical matchup or actually performing pretty well against Biden. They're slightly ahead of him statistically. It doesn't matter.

But it just shows that, hey, if the Republicans would get their act together, put the right candidate up, they might be able to win in 24.

Well, you know, more we've been talking about this all morning that it's my ongoing.

I guess bewilderment, but beef that the mainstream media, I've just never seen anything like it in my experience is the Biden bad Democrats doomed.

Both sides do it kind of storyline that they're constantly committed to despite that just not being the truth.

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