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🗓️ 20 November 2023
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Barb McQuade (U of Michigan Law Professor)
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| 0:08.0 | Oh, hi Barb McQuaid, good morning. |
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| 0:26.0 | guys desperately to explain how this could be possible to us. This ruling that |
| 0:31.9 | Trump engaged in insurrection and yet still can remain on the ballot |
| 0:36.3 | under this interpretation of the 14th Amendment. Can you explain your first take |
| 0:40.7 | on what happened here? Yeah, I didn't see this coming. |
| 0:43.5 | I actually thought she would find just the opposite way. |
| 0:46.0 | So there's sort of two questions that she decided here. |
| 0:50.0 | Of course, the 14th Amendment, Section 3 says that, you know, if you took an oath to serve |
| 0:56.7 | as a federal officer and then you engage an insurrection, you can't serve as a federal |
| 1:00.6 | officer again. And so the big question to me is whether Donald Trump had, quote, |
| 1:05.4 | engaged in insurrection. |
| 1:07.1 | Of course, as his lawyer argued, it's not like he was there |
| 1:09.9 | with a pitchfork, physically engaging. But what the judge found is it was |
| 1:14.1 | sufficient you know the rhetoric the failure to act during the 187 minutes when all of |
| 1:19.3 | this chaos was going on at the capital he could have stopped it he gave aid and comfort so she |
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