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Mea Culpa

Slush or No Slush - A Conversation With Dave Aronberg

Mea Culpa

Michael Cohen

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2026

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Mea Culpa, Michael Cohen sits down with Dave Aronberg to discuss the growing controversy surrounding Trump’s proposed $1.7 billion “weaponization fund.” Who qualifies for compensation? Where would taxpayer money actually go? And could this become one of the most legally and politically explosive issues in Washington? Cohen and Aronberg break down the legal arguments, political fallout, and the larger questions surrounding accountability, government power, and who ultimately pays the price. A timely conversation about a story that’s already raising serious questions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:33.0

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0:35.4

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0:45.3

You know, for years, Americans were told that the greatest threat facing the country was the so-called weaponization of government.

0:52.4

I mean, we literally heard it every night on cable news television,

0:56.5

every morning on social media,

0:58.5

and nearly every Trump rally where grievance has become

1:02.3

less of a potential strategy and more of a national business model.

1:07.5

The claim was simple.

1:09.3

Institutions like the Department of Justice, the FBI, and the IRS had supposedly been transformed into political weapons aimed squarely at Donald Trump and his allies. Now, whether you believe those claims or not, they fundamentally altered the way millions and millions of Americans viewed the federal government.

1:29.3

Trust eroded, cynicism spread, suspicion became patriotic currency.

1:36.3

But now, something even more complicated and potentially more dangerous is unfolding right in front of us.

1:44.6

Because what happens when the conversation shifts from the weaponization of government

1:49.7

to the personalization of government?

1:52.7

What happens when the concern is no longer whether institutions are unfairly targeting a politician,

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