Hello and welcome to the Slow Home Podcast. My name is Brooke McCallory.

And my name is Ben McCallory. Welcome to episode four of season nine.

In today's episode, you speak to a doctor.

I do. Dr. Kate Litterer is my guest today. And such a wonderful guest.

This conversation is one that I've reflected on a lot over the last few weeks since I recorded it.

And I'm really excited to share it.

So why did you invite Kate onto the podcast?

So Kate is a, she's a productivity coach.

And she focuses her work on slow living, slow productivity,

sustainable productivity and what she calls well-being oriented productivity.

I feel like that is something that is absolutely timely and relevant for all of us at the moment,

because I think there is this sort of overwhelming sense of exhaustion and maybe confusion

mixed with optimism, mixed with pessimism about how the world could have and hasn't and has and might shift in a work-related sort of sense as a result of the last couple of years.

And Kate's got so many incredible insights into the things that we as individuals can do to change the way that we

work. And importantly, that applies to both people like me and you and Kate who are self-employed,

but also to people who are not, people who don't have the flexibility to work from home, to shift their hours,

to, you know, kind of rewrite the rules of their workplace.

Yeah.

We really kind of dig into that in the conversation.

It's something that's happening, like, in real time.

Like, the Sydney has just sort sort of businesses have just opened up

in the city and they're encouraging people to come back into the city but there's a whole I think

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