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Weird Little Guys

Slow Decline

Weird Little Guys

iHeartPodcasts and Cool Zone Media

Society & Culture, True Crime

4.6 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 24 July 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

In 2016, Nicholas Young became the first American police officer to be arrested and charged with a federal terrorism offense. At trial, jurors were shown mountains of evidence about his collection of nazi memorabilia. But what does that have to do with the gift cards he texted to an FBI informant he thought was a member of ISIS?

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