The following podcast contains explicit language.

I just feel much more aware of abuses of power.

And while I think it's good to complicate and kind of play around with it,

I think she had so much less power than him.

Oh, absolutely. Yes. That is.

You think she had less power?

Oh, so much.

Yes.

Drought truly. Yes.

You know, if the president of the United States wants a blowjob,

who's supposed to suck his dick?

Another president of the United States.

He was Jimmy Carter was supposed to drop by and give Clinton a blowjob.

Hey, slow burn listeners.

This is the second of two podcast episodes featuring conversations from a series

of live events that we put on at the end of season two.

The previous episode of the podcast was concerned with this question of how

inevitable the political turmoil of the 1990s was and how much of it was a

function of chance.

Today, we're going to look at the power dynamics between Bill Clinton and

Monica Lewinsky.

You'll hear from a bunch of interesting people on that issue,

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