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Decoder Ring - The Most Famous Poet No One Remembers

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Arts

3.8546 Ratings

🗓️ 2 August 2022

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Rod McKuen sold multiple millions of poetry books in the 60s and 70s. He released dozens of albums, was a regular on late night, and was even nominated for an Oscar. So, how did the most salable poet in American history simply disappear? On today’s episode, Slate writer Dan Kois went searching for Rod McKuen, a famous poet who isn’t so famous anymore. We’ll hear from Stephanie Burt, Mike Chasar and Barry Alfonso, author of Rod’s biography A Voice of the Warm. Along the way, Dan meets Andy Zax, a guy who, like him, was bewildered by this forgotten star—until he became an accidental fan, and then somehow the only person keeping Rod McKuen’s flame alive.

This episode of Decoder Ring was written by Dan Kois and edited by Willa Paskin. It was produced by Willa Paskin and Katie Shepherd. Derek John is Sr. Supervising Producer of Narrative Podcasts. Merritt Jacob is our Technical Director.

If you have any cultural mysteries you want us to decode, email us at DecoderRing@slate.com. If you love the show and want to support us, consider joining Slate Plus. With Slate Plus you get ad-free podcasts, bonus episodes, and total access to all of Slate’s journalism.


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0:00.0

Hi. So I'm here today with Slate writer Dan Cois, and Dan's turning the lights down.

0:13.0

Dan, why are you turning the lights down?

0:16.0

I'm setting the mood, Willa.

0:19.0

We have a fireplace in the studio now?

0:21.4

Make yourself comfortable.

0:23.0

Merlo?

0:24.6

Thank you. I like that wine.

0:26.8

Let me play a record for you on the high-fi.

0:31.5

For love is only moments here and there.

0:34.8

It comes and goes quietly, I think.

0:38.3

You hear it like silver bells, tied about the throats of cats.

0:43.3

Tied about the throats of cats.

0:46.0

Dan, would you please tell us what that is?

0:48.3

That, Willa, is the most popular poet in American publishing history.

0:52.7

Rod McEwen.

0:54.4

I know the hills and gullies of your body.

0:58.2

The curves, the turns.

1:01.5

I have total recall of you in Stagnon Street because I know it will be important later.

1:09.2

Rod McEwen sold multiple millions of poetry books in the 60s and 70s.

1:14.7

He was a celebrity.

1:16.6

He released dozens of albums, was a regular on Late Night.

1:19.8

He was even nominated for an Oscar.

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