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Slow Burn - Becoming Justice Thomas | 2. Smiling Faces

Slow Burn

Slate Audio

Politics, Society & Culture, History, News, Documentary

4.625.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 June 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Clarence Thomas went to Yale Law School because he thought it was a good fit for his left-wing politics. But when he arrived, it seemed like all the white liberals thought he was only there because he was Black. The sting Thomas felt fueled a lifelong resentment of affirmative action. It also drew him to a group of conservatives who helped sharpen his political beliefs.

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As a college student at Holy Cross, Clarence Thomas excelled at his studies, found a hero in Malcolm X, and found his voice in campus debates.

0:38.0

But there was one area where he lagged way behind.

0:42.0

I came to conclusion that he didn't know women at all.

0:46.6

Eddie Jenkins was a football star at Holy Cross

0:49.3

and one of Clarence's closest friends.

0:51.6

And then, you know, when he told me he was going to be a

0:53.3

priest and so what happened to the priesthood and I realized, okay, all right, this

0:58.0

brother he had no experience. Eddie wanted to help Clarence. The trouble was finding women to date was a major challenge for black men at Holy Cross.

1:08.0

They were stuck at a mostly white, all-male school, and the closest women's colleges were almost all white too.

1:15.4

The white folks had this thing called a mixer, and that was all white people,

1:20.1

get together, drinking beer with loud crazy music that was not for me and a lot of the

1:25.2

brothers it wasn't just the music holy cross as black student union included this

1:30.8

line in its statement of principles.

1:32.8

The black man does not want or need the white woman.

1:36.6

Like other members of the BSU, Clarence Thomas strongly disapproved

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