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Hello and welcome back to the show.

Hello, Ben.

We are joined today by our friend Jameson. Jameson, how are you? How are you, Ben? I'm good. And Ben's good, too. We're going to speak for Ben. Ben's not speaking this entire of. Ben's doing really good. Yeah, I don't know who goes first. I was being a gentleman. The guy with a mustache goes first.

Oh, good call.

Yes.

Guy with mustache always goes first. Jamison's great to have you back on. You've been on an obviously handful of times. You subbed in for Ben a few, I don't know, weeks, maybe a couple months ago when Spencer Nix was on. Appreciate that. You've been on a handful of times before that. wanted to bring you on this time about, I don't know, gosh, you can tell me the timeline.

Maybe a month ago you sent me a about, I don't know, gosh, you can tell me the timeline.

Maybe a month ago you sent me a text with a PDF of something you've been working on. It's called On Dragons, Lions, and Wolves. And I think over the course of the last month or so, you've sent me like seven revisions of this thing as you continue to work on it. At some point in that process, I was like, can you just come on and talk to us about it?

So what's what we're going to do to?

It's like a 52-page book.

I think you're still trying to figure out what you're going to do with it, but we're going to talk about it anyways. Again, it's called on Dragons, Lions and Wolves, a guide for a guide to self-mastery, strength, and service. So I'm excited to get into this with you. I want to start with something.

I'm going to read a little bit from it.

You talk about this right. I'm excited to get into this with you. I want to start with something.

I'm going to read a little bit from it. You talk about this right early in the book. And I think it's kind of like, if it's not the thesis to me, when it popped out, I was like, oh, this is the thesis. This is what he's trying to work towards. And it's this concept of shared actualization. So I want to start here. I'm going to read two or three sentences to get us into it, to give a little bit of context.

And then I love your comments on it. actualization. So I want to start here. I'm going to read two or three sentences to get us

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