From wandering campsite media comes season three of the hit podcast suspect.

This is a story of two victims.

One murdered in cold blood, one in prison for a crime he did not commit.

Listen to suspect, five shots in the dark, wherever you get your podcasts,

or binge all eight episodes, add free on Wondery Plus.

Of the law and order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable.

We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the vicious felony

as these episodes are based on these are our stories done done.

Hello, hello, hello.

It's me Cara Clank and I'm Lisa Trigger and this is That's messed up an SVU podcast.

And this is a big one. It's our 10th episode. Yeah, you know what's up.

We basically are going to recap an episode of that law and order SVU.

Then we're going to do a deep dive into the true crime that it was based on.

And then we're going to have an interview and today's interview is honestly it's a bar and burner.

So I think we should keep this intro short. What is bar and burner mean?

I only know like from big business huge. Oh my god.

Just like it's going to be I think it's going to rock you guys world.

So I mean, you probably already seen our Instagram and know who it is, but we're going to make you wait.

We just wanted to say a couple of things. What do we want to talk about Lisa?

Well, I have a disclaimer in this episode.

I do say fucking a lot and it's because it's the fucking worst crime I've ever probably researched.

And so I get, you know, I don't have a great vocabulary. So that's where I go.

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