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A bit of a different thing going on this week.

You've been immature and you've lied.

And now you're trying to turn it on me and manipulate me and gaslight me.

I was trying to manipulate you.

Diana, you would be chucking their clothes out of the window.

I know, I'd be like, are you joking?

I don't know.

I guess you'd have to ask.

Someone that has sex.

Someone that has sex.

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Welcome to the History Extra podcast.

Fascinating historical conversations from BBC History Magazine and BBC History Revealed.

The transatlantic slave trade expanded greatly in the 18th century, going from a relatively small enterprise to a global business

that saw millions of Africans forced onto ships and sold at market in the Americas. I spoke to Nicholas

Radburn, a historian of the Atlantic world, to find out more about the merchants across the globe

who embroiled themselves in this brutal business

and the ruthless techniques they adopted to grow the bottom lines.

Who were the traders and men who were the title of your book?

So they're essentially the merchants that organize the transatlantic slave trade,

especially during the 18th century, which is the period I focus on.

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