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The Lincoln Project

"Slava Ukraini!" and How America Can't Be Trusted RN

The Lincoln Project

The Lincoln Project

Society & Culture, Daily News, News, Politics

4.78.4K Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

In a special double-header episode, Rick Wilson sits down with Alexander Vindman and Kenneth Harbaugh to discuss everything "Ukraine." Given Trump's unbelievable utter disrespect toward Zelensky and Ukraine during his recent Oval Office meeting and Trump's ongoing salivation over his man-crush and wannabe penpal Putin, this episode features THE experts who understand the lay of the land in Ukraine -- and, more importantly, where to go from here -- better than anyone else.  RUN to go and purchase Alexander Vindman's new book, The Folly of Realism: How the West Deceived Itself About Russia and Betrayed Ukraine, here: https://www.amazon.com/Folly-Realism-Deceived-Betrayed-Ukraine/dp/1541705041 -- it is F*CKING brilliant and couldn't be more topical.  ...Then drop everything and check out Kenneth Harbaugh's badass organization, VALOR MEDIA NETWORK, at https://valormedianetwork.com/. You can get a sense of WHO they are and what they're doing in their brand new trailer here: https://www.youtube.com/@valormedianetwork. Please like, follow, and subscribe to their YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@valormedianetwork for more manly, yet engaging, content.  ・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・ Follow Alexander Vindman at @AVindman on X and/or @avindman .bsky.social on Bluesky, and subscribe to his Substack at avindman.com.  Follow Kenneth personally @Team_Harbaugh on X and/or @thekenharbaughshow.bsky.social on Bluesky, and please do watch his incredible film work in his award-winning documentary, Against All Enemies, here: https://againstallenemiesfilm.com/ Follow Rick Wilson at @TheRickWilson on X and subscribe to his Substack at therickwilson.substack.com. Join the fight with Lincoln Project at www.lincolnproject.us and follow us on X at @ProjectLincoln. If you'd like to help us continue this critical work, visit https://action.lincolnproject.us/helplp to make a difference. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Donald Trump is Putin's wet dream.

0:36.0

So we're going to go work for our way up from there, all right? Donald Trump is Putin's wet dream. So we're going to go work for our way up from there, all right?

0:38.7

Donald Trump is Putin's wet dream.

0:40.8

Your task will not be an easy one.

0:43.0

Your enemy is well trained, well equipped, and battlehardt.

0:46.9

There is not a liberal America and a conservative America.

0:50.5

There is the United States of America.

0:55.0

Good night and good luck.

0:57.6

Ladies and gentlemen, it's Rick Wilson, your host.

0:59.6

As always here on the Lincoln Project podcast, welcome back to the show.

1:02.7

I am delighted to have a rare double-header episode today with my friends Alex Venman and Ken Harbaugh, two men who have spent a lot of time in working, thinking about Ukraine during the course of this war, and Alex, of course, who has very deep roots in Ukraine.

1:19.9

And I'm delighted to have you guys with me today because we're at a moment where the global equation has been scrambled, where one week ago, as we're recording

1:30.9

this, Donald Trump was engaged in the ritual humiliation of Vladimir Zelensky in the Oval

1:35.8

office with his handmaidens, J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio. And in that week since, we have seen Europe start to step up to fill the gap that

1:48.4

was once filled by NATO and American leadership. And so I wanted to talk to both of you about

1:54.0

where Ukraine stands today, where you see the battle ahead. I want also talk to you, Alex, about your remarkable new book,

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