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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

Slate Plus Bonus: Praying at the 50 Yard Line and Dunking on the Libs

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

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News Commentary,, Government, News

4.63.4K Ratings

🗓️ 28 June 2022

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Dahlia Lithwick and Mark Joseph Stern on Kennedy v Bremerton School District: a referendum on the status of truth at the high court, and another nail in the coffin of the establishment clause.  Slate Plus members have access to the whole interview.  Sign up for Slate Plus now to listen and support our show. Podcast production by Sara Burningham. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, Dahlia Lithwick here again. We are in the final week of the Supreme Court's 2021

0:10.0

term, and while many are still reeling from Friday's decision, overturning Roe v Wade,

0:16.1

the court turned around Monday and issued another eye-popping decision in a religious

0:21.4

liberty case. It was Kennedy versus Bremerton's school district. It's a case Mark Joseph

0:26.9

Stern actually flagged as likely to be one of the most consequential in a term packed

0:32.8

with consequential cases. Flate Plus members have access to a special bonus edition of

0:38.4

Amicus, where Mark and I explain why a case involving a high school football coach who

0:43.2

insisted on leading students in prayer at the 50 yard line matters so very much. Here's

0:50.1

a little snippet of our conversation.

0:52.1

I just want to read this to you because I don't know why I'm at that place where improbable

0:58.9

things make me last cry. And here's Justice Gorsuch that says, this is my, and then weirdly

1:06.0

the teller handed me money.

1:08.8

Mr. Kennedy was alone when he began to pray. Players from the other team and members of

1:13.6

the community joined him. Before he even finished his prayer, this event spurred media coverage

1:19.6

of Mr. Kennedy's dilemma. Like it's like, I don't know what happened. He just was on

1:25.7

his knee at the 50 yard line praying because he kept telling television networks that that's

1:31.4

what he had to do in order to serve God. And weirdly, people prayed with him, including

1:38.2

students who felt coerced into praying. And then weirdly there was more media coverage.

1:42.9

I don't understand why the teller handed over the money. It makes no sense. Okay, okay.

1:48.5

Enough with the sarcasm. Mark, this actually has very, very significant consequences.

1:54.0

We're being flipped because we're a little hysterical. But this has real significant consequences.

1:59.3

So maybe just tell me, I mean, there's a whole bunch of cases that are mentioned and sort

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