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Slate Money - The Weapons of Math Destruction Edition

Slate Money

Slate Podcasts

Investing, Business

4.11.1K Ratings

🗓️ 10 September 2016

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of Slate Money, hosts Felix Salmon of Fusion, Cathy O’Neil, author of, Weapons of Math Destruction, and Slate Moneybox columnist Jordan Weissmann dive into Cathy’s new book, “Weapons of Math Destruction.” 

We discuss the worst math how algorithms can fail us, breakdown examples from criminal justice and insurance, and talk about “the way forward” when it comes to regulation, transparency, and ethics. 

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Email: slatemoney@slate.com

Twitter: @felixsalmon@mathbabedotorg@JHWeissmann

Production by Veralyn Williams.

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0:00.0

The following podcast contains explicit language.

0:07.7

Hello!

0:10.2

And welcome to the extra special, amazing Weapons of Math Destruction Edition of Slate Money.

0:19.2

We three brave souls have now managed between the three of us to publish

0:25.0

one book. Wow. And that... But it's a really good book. It's a really good book. It's a really, really

0:30.9

good book. The book, I am Felix Hammer of Fusion. I have never published a book. I am joined by

0:36.1

Jordan Weissman of Slate, who has never published a book.

0:39.0

Probably never going to.

0:40.2

And we are also joined by Kathy O'Neill, who has published a book.

0:46.8

It is called What is the title?

0:48.3

It's called Weapons of Math Destruction, How Big Data, Increases Inequality, and Threatens Democracy.

0:55.0

And we are going to devote this entire episode to this book because we love Kathy and we

1:02.5

are basically, we're taking book plugs to a whole new level here.

1:06.5

I was going to say we bring on all sorts of other people to plug their books.

1:09.2

It would be a little bit impolite if we told Kathy she couldn't.

1:12.3

At the end of this episode, you should go out and order multiple copies and send them to everyone who you think should read it. And at the end of this episode, you will understand why so many people should read it.

1:23.5

And if I may plug, I just want to say since we're a podcast that I read this book

1:29.0

on the audio version of this book. So feel free to buy that as well. If you like the Kathy

1:33.3

voice. Some people love it. The mellifluous Kathy O'Neill. I like the Kathy voice. If you like

1:38.4

the Kathy voice, you can audio listen instead of read. Some people, yeah, it's much easier when

1:43.7

you're driving.

1:44.5

Yeah, people, yeah, it's true.

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