The following podcast contains explicit language.

Hello and welcome to the travel edition of Slate Money, your guide to travel, I guess. We have a very special guest on this week. I am Felix Salmon of Fusion, Anna Shaman and Jordan Weissman as ever are here.

Hey, guys. Hello. Hello. But most importantly, we have Rafat Ali.

Hello.

Rafat, you run a publication called Skift.

Correct.

Skip.

It's a website.

It's a magazine, which I have in my hand.

Yeah, we did this hot new thing called print.

It's a hot new thing called print.

The cover line on the magazine is travel in an age of... Yeah, we did this hot new thing called print. It's a hot new thing called print.

The cover line on the magazine is travel in an age of perm anxiety, which I didn't even know that perm anxiety was a word, but it seems right.

Well, we coined it.

We love coining words or whatever they're called.

You're always, you create the trends. So this is going to be a very

special edition of Slate Money during a time of the year that people spend altogether too

much time in airports. If you're listening to this in an airport, my commiserations,

if you're listening to this on a plane, which is also possible,

I hope that we will be able to transport you out into a lovely world of not having to,

you know, worry about that large person sitting next to you. Plains, we're going to talk about

planes. We're going to talk about airlines. We're going to talk about airlines.

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