Hello! Welcome to the Citizen Kane episode of Slate Money Goes to the Movies. I'm Felix

Amon of Axios. I'm here with Emily Peck of Fundrise. Hello. It's time to really drag

out the big guns here. This is the 40-millimeter howitzer of movies. In order to talk about the

movie that everyone seems to think was the greatest movie ever made in the history of cinema,

we have the only person we could possibly invite on this show to talk about it. Welcome Ben Smith.

Thank you so much for having me out. Ben, who are you and what is your relationship to the press

and press magnets? Oh, I'm the film critic for The New York Times. Ben is the most

astute observer of contemporary media and used to run a website you might have heard of called BuzzFeed.

I know nothing about movies. I'm the media columnist for the time. Anyone reading that column

and reading when I read about Disney and Netflix will see how a little I know about movies.

And yes, used to run BuzzFeed. But you actually, you have a whole childhood of house movies in your

background as we will talk about in this episode. You will mention inflicting French art

house movies on your 14-year-old daughter. We will talk about where Cain stands as like a movie,

as an art house movie. But of course, mostly we're going to talk about Cain as a character,

this whole idea of media moguls, whether it stands up, what's changed in the media industry

between 1941 and now. It's a meaty and delicious episode coming up on sleek money goes to the movies.

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So Ben, tell me, where were you when was it? Tell me like the first time you saw Citizen Cain.

My mom used to make me watch black and white movies when I was a kid and actually sometimes to

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