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🗓️ 18 September 2023

⏱️ 43 minutes

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In this episode of the Criminals series, the gang talks with Rebecca Jarvis, host of “The Dropout” about Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos. Who were the real victims of Holmes’ crimes? How did her lofty goals drift into scandal? And where does she sit on a scale of “one to evil”? If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and an additional segment of our show every week. You’ll also be supporting the work we do here on Slate Money. Sign up now at slate.com/moneyplus to help support our work. Podcast production by Patrick Fort. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the Elizabeth Holmes episode of Slate Money Criminals.
0:20.3	I'm Felix Simon of Axios.
0:22.3	I'm here with Elizabeth Spires of New York Times and Slate and other places.
0:27.9	Hello.
0:28.5	I'm here with Emily Peck of Axios.
0:31.7	Hello, hello.
0:32.9	And to talk about Elizabeth Holmes, the woman who did an entire podcast on her.
0:38.4	Rebecca Javis, Rebecca, welcome.
0:41.1	Thank you.
0:42.2	Great to be here with you guys.
0:43.9	Introduce yourself and plug your podcast.
0:46.7	So I'm the host and creator of the Dropout podcast, chronicling the rise and fall of Elizabeth Holmes.
0:52.3	And we have two seasons.
0:53.9	The first one goes over the story and the of Elizabeth Holmes, and we have two seasons. The first one goes over
0:55.1	the story, and the second follows the entire trial real time. So you'll hear everything that went
1:01.9	down in the courtroom. We are going to try and answer the question of how bad of a criminal
1:09.0	was Elizabeth Holmes. What did she do that was bad?
1:12.6	Did she get her just desserts?
1:13.6	We're going to talk about who the victims were, what was going through her head,
1:18.6	what was going on with her co-conspirator, Sonny Belwani.
1:23.6	And at the end, we're going to try and place her on a scale of, like, one to Madoff.
1:28.1	Was she worse than Madoff? Better? It's all coming up on Slate Money.
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