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421. Got a time machine. Oh, it's good that you didn't do that.

Yeah, for us, but for those idiot stoners. Wait, what?

What you got to shit on the stoners? The boosers and the stoners do not get along, Chris.

They don't? No! You're mad at the stoners? No, centuries passed. There was a time when they all

lived happily, but until one guy got way too mellow and the other too aggressive and condescending,

and then they never spoke again. Hey guys, why can't we all just hang out? Oh yeah,

right. You were fucking just love to do that, wouldn't you? And ever since then,

time has stopped. Ching, Ching, Ching, Ching. Why am I doing these sand effects then?

These are these is a montage where you just see all the battles that were happening,

like in the beginning of Nightwatch or whatever. Okay, okay, okay, yeah.

That is so specific and I know exactly what you're talking about. I know, I'm sure there's other

movies. At one point, there was a divide. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Or like Underworld,

like the like. You like it in the vampires. The likens of the Dracula's. And the Dracula's.

The likens of the, the likens of the Dracula's. Hey, hey, why don't we? Could you come on

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