Slagged Across Concrete, Feat. Jonathan Katz

Fever Dreams

The Daily Beast

News & Politics, Government

4.4 • 767 Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2022

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

The latest conspiracy theory to convulse MAGA-land does not involve COVID-19 boosters or deep-state January 6 plots, but a bit of routine construction at dear old 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue—which has convinced some on the right that Biden is about to impose martial law. Meanwhile, Trump’s favorite network One America News is in trouble, and the former president is threatening to crush and “destroy” Florida Governor Ron DeSantis if he doesn’t fall in line for 2024. And finally, the co-hosts discuss the Ray Epps saga, a rightwing deep-state conspiracy about a January 6 that has made it all the way to the January 6 committee—and that has caused a spate of young rightwingers accusing likeminded boomers of “being feds”—and journalist Jonathan M. Katz joins the podcast to talk about his book, Gangsters of Capitalism, about a man named Smedley Butler who was involved in most of the U.S. invasions and occupations and wars around the turn of the century and who eventually became an antiwar activist and “blew the whistle on a fascist plot to overthrow Franklin Delano Roosevelt.”

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0:00.0	Hi, welcome to Fever Dreams. My name's Will Summer. I'm a political reporter at The Daily Beast and the author of an upcoming book on QAnon for Harper Collins.
0:07.8	And I'm Aswin-Sub-Tang, but please call me Swin. I'm a senior political reporter at the Daily Beast and co-author of the book Sinking in the Swamp.
0:15.2	All right, here on Fevered Dreams, we're going to take you on plunges into the sometimes hilarious and sometimes scary world of the American right as they continue to influence our politics. Even in the aftermath of the Trump administration,
0:25.4	the energy of these conspiracy theorists, these grifters, and these influencers is still pushing
0:30.5	our mainstream political landscape closer and closer to a breaking point. So, Will, it's my
0:35.6	understanding that you have some, I'm not sure if I would call it sad,
0:38.7	but at the very least, bitter sweet news for the Fever Dreams gang.
0:42.5	Well, whether it's sad or not, it sort of depends on what your tastes are in Fever
0:45.6	Dreams hosts.
0:46.7	But yeah, I'm going on another leave.
0:48.1	I'll be out for into the spring a little bit, working on a couple more projects. So I just wanted to broach this on the pod because in the
0:55.1	past, I've handed this off to you as a duty to explain. And there was like a lot of speculation.
1:01.0	Oh, did Will? Was he ousted? Was he fired from the Daily Beast? Is he under a cloud of suspicion?
1:06.1	Has he been soft canceled? That kind of stuff. So the answer is, no, it's nothing to worry about.
1:11.4	I wouldn't put on your sleut thing, just working on a couple of things.
1:14.0	I will return to the pod soon.
1:15.9	Around when should we be expecting you back so Kelly Weil doesn't sharpen too many knives while you're out?
1:21.7	Yes, Midmart.
1:22.5	And it's good of you to bring up Kelly Weil.
1:24.1	She will be among the great co-hosts filling in for me. So I'll certainly be a
1:28.0	listener and I think it'll be great. So yeah, that's sort of what I'm up to. All right, so on to the
1:31.3	news. So Swin, it's been a tough month for One America News, the sort of upstart Fox News,
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