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Whatever number of times I've hung out with Slade, it's him telling me about how he started Housewives.

Someone sent me a clip where he talks about how, oh, if Joe's not on, then I'm not on.

Slade, can you understand why some people think you're a media whore?

No, you should remember that after the second season of this show, I made the decision not to continue with housewives.

Right. Well, Joe was no longer a housewife. So there would be no place for you on the show.

Yeah. Hello, you guys, welcome back to another episode over here at everyone's business with mine with me, Kara Berry.

Today we're talking another episode of The Katie Show.

How about that?

How about that?

Okay.

Listen, I just feel like I don't even know if this episode is worth a rehab in the traditional way of me doing it.

Like, I'll walk you through it, you know, and I'll talk you through it.

But I'll, I just feel like so much is happening offline, interviews coming out.

My care for this whole situation, the Katie iced out of 2025, as I'm going to call it,

is, you know, just lowering every day. Not because of Katie. I just feel like there's so many other

players and pieces moving around on this little checkerboard, chest board, and I'm just like

exhausted, okay? My weave, my panty liner, et cetera. And so this was just like, you know,

Katie was gone mostly from the episode, but like her presence was Omni, in my opinion.

So here's what's going on.

Okay.

I told you all a couple of weeks ago that you actually kind of have to watch the

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