Skye Jethani Tells Us Where We're Wrong on Heaven

The Russell Moore Show

Christianity Today, Russell Moore

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 914 Ratings

🗓️ 11 October 2023

⏱️ 40 minutes

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“She’s in a better place.” Statements like this tend to pop up at funerals and in Facebook comment threads memorializing a lost loved one. But do people really mean what they’re saying? Is cultural commentary on life after death merely an attempt at comforting the bereaved or a statement of belief? Enter Skye Jethani, co-host of The Holy Post Podcast and author whose newest title asks the question What If Jesus Was Serious about Heaven? During his conversation with Russell Moore, Jethani talks about views on heaven, including whether it's a real place or a mere platitude. He and Moore discuss the human desire for judgments and rewards, theories on near-death experiences, and when eternal life actually begins. They consider biblical passages on life and death, miracles, and setting our minds on heavenly things. And they ask one another what it looks like to commune with God and when they feel closest to heaven. Tune in for a thoughtful conversation on how earthly lives interact with heavenly futures and what it looks like to live according to the reality of eternity. Resources mentioned in this episode include: What If Jesus Was Serious about Heaven?: A Visual Guide to Experiencing God's Kingdom Among Us by Skye Jethani The Holy Post Podcast “Training for Reigning” series by Dallas Willard A Testament of Devotion by Thomas R. Kelly “Morning Prayer” from The Book of Common Prayer Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World by Tom Holland Four Quartets by T. S. Eliot Do you have a question for Russell Moore? Send it to [email protected]. Click here for a trial membership at Christianity Today. “The Russell Moore Show” is a production of Christianity Today Executive Producers: Erik Petrik, Russell Moore, and Mike Cosper Host: Russell Moore Producer: Ashley Hales Associate Producers: Abby Perry and Azurae Phelps Director of Operations for CT Media: Matt Stevens Audio engineering by Dan Phelps Video producer: Abby Egan Theme Song: “Dusty Delta Day” by Lennon Hutton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:17.0	Every week we explore here conversations and questions from a Christian perspective to help you sort out how to live as a follower of Jesus in confusing times.
1:29.0	This week we have a conversation to seek to do just that. I've been looking forward to this
1:40.6	conversation for a while now because we get to talk to Skye
1:46.6	about heaven. Someone named Sky writing about heaven it just works works. It's perfect.
1:53.6	Most of you know who Skaiyathan he is. He is an award-winning author, former pastor, speaker,
1:59.4	co-host of The Holy Post podcast, and he's written all kinds of books. I don't even know how many.
2:06.8	But this series is the What If Jesus was Serious About various things and today we're going to talk about what if Jesus was serious about
2:14.8	heaven sky welcome to the show today thanks Russell I'm really glad to be back you know
2:20.7	I want to talk in a few minutes about what the Bible says about heaven, but before we do that I want to kind of look at what does American culture think about heaven?
2:32.0	When you go to a funeral, people are always going to say,
2:36.9	he's in a better place, she's in a better place.
2:40.3	But a lot of the time, you think that's because they don't really know what else to say
2:46.3	Do you think people really believe in heaven or is it just a comfort now and then for folks? Yeah, that's a good question. I think it probably
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