Skull Found in Plastic Bag in 1985 Identified; Victim Born in 1864

Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

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🗓️ 13 June 2024

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

In 1985 a skull and partial remains are found in a plastic bag near Channel Islands Harbor in Oxnard, California. Thinking the remains are from a recent victim, investigators work to solve what they think is a murder. Failing to identify the victim, the case goes cold. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how the scientists at Othram Labs developed a DNA extract from the evidence and were able to identify “Ventura County Jane Doe "as the victim of a grave robbing that happened after her death in 1915. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will share the story of Gertrude Elliot-Littlehale, a woman born in 1864 and the amazing life she lived well before she became the unidentified “cold case” of “Ventura County Jane Doe”. Othram Labs is helping solve cases that seem unsolvable with the help of everyday people willing to make a small donation at DNASOLVES.COM Please take a moment of your time and visit DNASOLVES.COM and see how you can help solve a case.

Transcript Highlights

00:00:08 Introduction of Ventura County Jane Doe

00:03:44 Discussion of Skull found in a bag in 1985

00:07:19 Talk about history and DNA

00:11:58 Discussion identifying bodies

00:15:13 Talk about going from 1985 back to 1864

00:20:49 Discussion of dogs and old bones

00:24:14 Discussion of forensic anthropologist

00:29:04 Discussion of “suture lines”

00:33:03 Talk about solving crimes with DNA

00:38:20 Discussion of building a family tree

00:42:12 Discussion of “Gertie” and her life

00:46:50 Talk about Othram Labs

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0:00.0	Bodybags with Joseph Scott Morgan. A last, poor York. I knew him Horatio, a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy.
0:29.9	He hath borne me on his back a thousand times.
0:35.4	And now, how abandoned in my imagination it is. My gorge rises at it.
0:46.0	Here hung those lips that I have kissed, I know not how oft.
0:51.0	Where be your jibes now? Your gambles, your songs, your flashes of merriment, that were wont to set the table on a roar.
1:12.0	That's the fifth moment in that play where Prince Hamlet is actually considering the skull that has been taken up by one of the grave
1:29.2	diggers in Hamlet's world and he's considering it as he stares into those empty sockets.
1:36.9	It's a moment where I think that Hamlet comes to a realization about his mortality and the mortality of his family and everybody that's around him.
1:50.0	And he's also longing for something in the past because York was the court jester.
1:55.2	He was the person that entertained everybody. He sang, he told jokes.
2:01.6	Today we're going to explore an absolutely fascinating case. That involves
2:12.1	a skull not too dissimilar from York, but a skull also that at one point in time in life produced fine sounds.
2:28.7	It produced musical education for many people that had never been trained in music.
2:36.5	Today we're going to have a discussion
2:42.3	about the discovered skull of Gertrude Elliot Little Hill.
2:50.6	I'm Joseph Scott Morgan and this is body bags.
2:55.0	Dave I am so excited about this episode. I was of recent with my buddy David
3:06.4	Middleman of Othram Labs in the Woodlands, Texas,
3:11.9	just north of Houston.
3:13.2	We visited for some time at Crime Cod in Nashville.
3:18.0	And he laid this case on me, and I had to share it with you.
3:22.0	Because you love history as much as I do and you talk about
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