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Skrmetti, Obergefell, and the Path Forward for LGBTQIA+ Rights with Chase Strangio

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🗓️ 6 June 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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June is a time to honor and celebrate the LGBTQIA+ community. It’s also a month when the Supreme Court has historically made pivotal decisions for LGBTQIA+ rights. This week, Co-Director of the ACLU's LGBT & HIV Project Chase Strangio joins W. Kamau Bell to reflect on the 10-year anniversary of marriage equality with Obergefell v. Hodges, how that case bears on the pending U.S. v. Skrmetti decision, and what it looks like to show up for trans youth and their families in this critical moment. For more information on Skrmetti and actions you can take, head to action.aclu.org. While you’re there, take the pledge to support trans youth and sign the petition to defend trans freedom: action.aclu.org/petition/defend-trans-freedom action.aclu.org/petition/take-pledge-support-trans-youth-now This episode was executive produced by Jessica Herman Weitz for the ACLU, and W. Kamau Bell, Kelly Rafferty, PhD, and Melissa Hudson Bell, PhD for Who Knows Best Productions. It was recorded at Skyline Studios in Oakland, CA. Our senior executive producer is Sam Riddell. At Liberty is edited and produced by Erica Getto and Myrriah Gossett for Good Get.

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, it's me, W. Come Out Bell, aka J. Jamokofudge.

0:06.0

Welcome to the ACLU's podcast at Liberty, and specifically, Happy Pride!

0:12.0

Yep, everybody, it is Pride Month.

0:15.0

June marks a time of celebration and reflection for the LGBTQIA plus community.

0:21.6

And it's also a time when the Supreme Court has historically made pivotal decisions for that community around their rights in this country.

0:29.6

On June 26, 2015, the Supreme Court ruled on Obergefell v. Hodges, and with it, marriage equality became the law of the

0:38.6

land, as it always should have been. On June 15, 2020, another victory came with Bostock v. Clayton

0:46.0

County, which offered federal protections for LGBTQ plus employees, and that made that the law of the

0:52.8

land, as it always should have been.

0:55.7

These wins were decades in the making and took a lot of hard work, boots on the ground

1:01.1

activism, good lawyers, and at every turn, advocates were met with political backlash.

1:07.9

Over the last five years, we've seen a similar pattern emerge with more than

1:11.0

1,500 pieces of anti-trans legislation making their way through state legislatures. These include

1:17.8

bans on trans athletes inclusion in sports, drag performances, LGBTQ inclusive education, and

1:26.3

gender-affirming medical care for transgender youth,

1:29.4

which leads us to right now, June 2025.

1:33.6

We're recording this episode on Tuesday, June 3rd, just before the Supreme Court is expected

1:38.2

to announce its ruling on U.S. v. Scrimetti.

1:41.5

The marquee case centers on a Tennessee ban on gender-affirming care,

1:45.8

and its outcome has the potential to affect transgender youth and their families across the country.

1:51.3

Here and at Liberty, we're committed to exploring the big issues affecting our big country,

1:56.2

and especially our hardest hit and most vulnerable communities,

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