Skipping revision for Crossroads and Corrie (with Stéphane Babonneau)
Off Air with Jane & Fi
The Times
4.6 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 17 February 2026
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
Fi’s still off, so Jane is holding down the fort, with some help from Eve ('fresh' from Berlin). There’s more discussion about revision, fear of failure, the eccentricities of Berlin, and Jane’s love of work (and Smash Hits).
Plus, Jane speaks to Stéphane Babonneau, the lawyer to Gisèle Pelicot. Gisèle’s book is called 'A Hymn to Life: Shame Has to Change Sides'.
Our next book club pick is 'A Town Like Alice' by Nevil Shute.
Our most asked about book is called 'The Later Years' by Peter Thornton.
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| 0:00.0 | Right, okay, let's go. Have you got your microphone up? I've got my microphone up. |
| 0:14.1 | She's back everybody. I mean, so a genuine concern about whether Eve was going to be back in |
| 0:19.7 | one piece from her weekend revelries in |
| 0:23.5 | Berlin. Because when I talked to you about it on Thursday, you weren't, I mean, you were definitely |
| 0:28.5 | six out of ten about this whole venture. I was a bit nervous. Yeah. You don't even sound that croaky. |
| 0:33.6 | I'm a bit disappointed. Well, I've had all of Monday to recuperate. |
| 0:41.7 | How do I feel about Berlin out of 10 as a place? |
| 0:44.4 | Maybe a 7. |
| 0:46.0 | Oh, God. |
| 0:49.1 | I hope there are no German listeners, a bit of shade there. |
| 0:50.7 | Seven out of 10? |
| 0:51.9 | People rave about it. |
| 0:53.8 | Well, people rave in it. Yes. And I did do for the rave. Right, okay. It was very, very cold. What was it really? A little bit bleak. Berlin would be cold in February. Well, I thought that it was kind of similar to London. Really, did you? I packed some thermals, but... Not enough? No. Because you get out of the Uber and it's kind of like, oh, let's go and see the gate of the city. The Brandenburg goes. But you can't stand outside for long. It's immediately, it's like, right, let's sack this off. Oh dear. To go and find a bar. Culture lover, Eve there, sacking off a trip to some of Berlin's major sites |
| 1:30.5 | because it was a bit chilly. |
| 1:32.5 | I think I when I was a bit younger on a school trip. |
| 1:34.5 | Oh, well, that's all right then. |
| 1:36.6 | And when you say raving, this is a genuine question, |
| 1:40.2 | what does that actually mean? |
| 1:42.0 | So it means kind of banging your head. |
| 1:45.3 | They're big on the techno music. |
| 1:47.6 | And I said to Rosie that maybe that's why I haven't lost my voice. |
| 1:50.5 | You can't really sing along to techno music. |
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