Skinwalkers at the Pentagon

Astonishing Legends

Scott Philbrook

History, Society & Culture

4.6 • 9.8K Ratings

🗓️ 16 January 2022

⏱️ 143 minutes

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Summary

One of the most baffling, disturbing, and popular subjects we've ever covered on the show is the mystery of Skinwalker Ranch. The groundbreaking book Hunt for the Skinwalker was the source for most of our research. And this is why we're honored and excited to discuss the follow-up book Skinwalkers at the Pentagon: An Insiders' Account of the Secret Government UFO Program, with two of its authors, Colm A. Kelleher, Ph.D., and George Knapp. Colm Kelleher is a biochemist specializing in cell biology and, since the early 1990s, has focused his work initially in the fields of cancer research and immunology. George Knapp is an investigative journalist based in Las Vegas, Nevada, whose probing into the secrets of Area 51 and related paranormal phenomena have garnered him accolades and authority for his 30 years of reporting. It's also secured him a recurring role for the past 12 years as a guest host for the legendary Coast to Coast AM radio program. Both men were tapped early on by hotel magnate and aerospace industrialist Robert Bigelow to lend their talents to his National Institute for Discovery Sciences (NIDS). The goal was to apply bona fide scientific study to the High Strangeness experienced on the Sherman property in northeastern Utah, now known popularly as "Skinwalker Ranch." With their sequel Skinwalkers at the Pentagon, Kelleher, and Knapp, along with James T. Lacatski, D. Eng. have revealed the startling connection between the Defense Intelligence Agency's Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) and its investigation into troubling interactions with military operations such as the infamous "Tic Tac video" and universal, trickster-like paranormal actors. Government investigators found that simply visiting the Ranch could spur UFO sightings, poltergeist activity, frightening visits from Shadow Beings and cryptids, and most chillingly, the encounters would follow them and spread like a contagion to family members and even their neighborhoods. From tonight's discussion, we can conclude that far from each phenomenon being unrelated, everything may very well be connected. And that implication is a profound shock to our complacent reality because there's nothing any of us can do about it.

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0:43.3	Five years ago, in September of 2016, we released one of our seminal series, Skinwalker Ranch.
0:50.8	It was the first topic we crossed paths with for Scott that short-circuited how he saw
0:55.0	the pertimal world. I just thought it was a freaky place with a cool sounding name that
0:59.8	I wanted to know more about. We were still a little green back then when it came to storytelling,
1:05.0	but to be fair, Skinwalker Ranch does not fit neatly into a narrative box. There was
1:11.4	nothing we could do about that. One of the things we learned from that legend is that when
1:16.2	an Estonishing Tale comes along, if it does fit perfectly into a story structure, well,
1:21.5	then we're less likely to believe some of the aspects about it because that's not how
1:26.1	these things typically work. As you'll hear tonight, Skinwalker Ranch seems to have a
1:31.3	mind of its own, and it's not prone to cooperation. For a long time now, we've had an expression
1:37.8	on our show, and those of you who've been with us for several years will recognize it
1:41.9	easily. Everything is connected.
1:45.2	Much to Scott's sugar ed, it looks like I was the one who first used that phrase during
1:49.4	our Oak Island series back in August of 2015.
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