Today on Open Mind UAP News, an interview with Brandon Fugel, the owner of the Skinwalker Ranch.

What's that got to do with UAP?

I'll tell you right after this.

UAP became a big deal in everybody, including Congress, the Pentagon, and even NASA started paying attention because of an article that came out in December 2017 in the New York Times.

It revealed a Pentagon program that allegedly was investigating UFOs.

Not necessarily the case.

It talked about $22 million being spent on a Pentagon program that was focused on UFO military cases.

However, really that $22 million was spent on a program called OSTAP, which was inspired by the alleged paranormal phenomena happening at the Skinwalker Ranch, and it included a lot more than UFOs.

The researchers there felt that they were seeing poltergeist, cattle mutilation, a whole host of

paranormal things, including UAP.

Of course, that's our biggest interest, and we want to talk to Brand of Dugle about the UFO

aspects of the ranch, what's going on with the ranch, and his hopes for really doing some

scientific investigation and hopefully some research papers that will result from the data collection

that's going on there at the ranch. I hope you enjoy this interview with Brandon Fugel.

I'm happy to be talking once again with Brandon Fugel, the owner of the ranch that is the subject

of History Channel's The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. Now in its fifth season, five seasons, have they

flown by for you? They have. It has been a whirlwind, a blur, if you will, over the course of the

last few years is the investigation has evolved and we've seen the Secret of Skinwalker Ranch gain a global audience.

We're currently the number one series on History Channel.

We also have the number two series, which is beyond Skinwalker Ranch, that takes the investigation

beyond the borders of the 512 acre mysterious property in northeastern Utah

to sites across the country that report similar phenomena

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