Brett McKay here and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness

podcast over the last decade there's been an increase in the number of people, particularly young adults,

who struggle with low moods, distractibility, and anxiety, and consequent difficulties with getting

their life on track and making progress in work, friendship, and romance.

In addressing these difficulties, people are often given or adopt a mental health diagnosis

and look for a solution in therapy and or medication.

My guest isn't opposed to these remedies.

She is herself a clinical psychologist who's maintained a practice for a quarter century

that specializes in treating clients in their 20s.

But Dr. Meg Jay, who's also the author of the 20-something treatment,

believes that a lot of what young adults, and in fact adults of all ages struggle with, aren't

disorders that need to be treated, but problems that can be solved. In the first half

of our conversation Meg explains what's behind the decline in mental health for young

adults and how it's bigger than just smartphones. We discuss the dangers of

self-diagnosis, the potential downsides of using medications to treat mental health issues, and why she advocates for skills over pills.

In the second half of our conversation, we talk about how mental health gets better when we get better at life and what skills 20-somethings and many older adults need to develop

including the skills of thinking, feeling, working, socializing, and even cooking.

We also discuss how porn is affecting the young men in life. working, socializing, and even cooking.

We also discuss how porn is affecting the young men in her practice,

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IS slash Meg J. All right, Meg Jay, welcome back to the show.

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