I thought, if Heather thinks she can tell everybody what I said with her stank on top of it,

then I can tell Angie exactly what was said.

That, by definition, is messy.

I know you feel that way, so I said, I can apologize.

It comes across messy.

It comes across messy or is messy.

If for us to move forward, I have to say it was messy, I will own that it was messy.

You don't have to say anything you don't want to say for us to move forward.

I want to, because I'd want us to move forward.

But this doesn't, this is not the end of it.

Hey, y'all, welcome back to another episode of everyone's business with mine with me,

Kara Berry. Today, we're heading over to Utah to talk the ladies of Salt Lake City,

aka the Bronwyn Show. She, she's just giving me everything I need. She's feeding me.

It's like a full, honestly a seven-course meal. We started with the Amu's Bush. We got the boxers. We got the money. We have a husband who is both wealthy and quiet. Okay.

A double threat in the world of housewives. And I'm just like here for her. I'm really like hope and wish and pran that I haven't fucked this up. And I'm

really thinking that I'm not. I feel like Heather and maybe even Lisa kind of hinted before in the beginning of that season when they were doing press that Bronwyn like is gonna end up being the villain of the season.

I'm like girl, I mean, it's, she's got a long way to go if this is where we're at. It's giving. I got bested by the newbie and I don't like it. But anyway, we'll get into that. So we start off the episode still at Angie and Sean's mafia themed 25th wedding anniversary party. Girls and Gays never forget. Lisa is still on the

phone with her Sean, her private security, Sean. Whitney's accusing me of something I did not do.

Okay, so I want to get the police involved. She's lying right now. She's lying right now.

And then as she's walking away,

she goes, you know what? Every time I think we're going to

be friends, you fuck up. And then

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