Well, if the first week of the new year has shown us anything, it's that Joe Biden and Donald Trump are basically living on different planets when it comes to their approach to American democracy.

Tonight I'm going to talk to House Speaker of Emerita, Nancy Pelosi, about all of it.

Plus, President Obama has reportedly floated David Pluff, my old boss, as the type of senior

strategist who might be useful to the Biden campaign.

Of course he would be.

And David is going to join me tonight as well.

But we do want to start tonight with some new reporting from ABC News.

That's shedding

greater light on what Trump was doing, and more importantly, not doing on January 6th. As a mob pushed

its way into the Capitol, becoming more and more violent, as the minutes took by, Trump was reportedly

just not interested in doing more to stop it. And as Trump learned that his own vice president had to be rushed to a secure location,

Trump reportedly responded, so what? So what?

Trump accepted the violence that day. He liked the threat to democracy then,

the whipping up of violence on his behalf, the anger. And he still does.

And that's quickly emerging as the

core argument in President Biden's reelection campaign. In a speech on Friday, Biden called democracy

the most urgent question of our time, saying Trump is willing to sacrifice it. And just this afternoon

speaking at Mother Emmanuel Church, he compared the perpetuation of the big lie

to those who denied the outcome of the civil war. Biden is imploring Americans to save democracy

from the man who, by his own account, wants to destroy it. But as President Biden leans

into this contrast with Trump, this particular line of attack, some seem to think it's just kind of old

news. It's all in the past. Republican Senator Mitt Romney told the New York Times,

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