Our guest is the founder of Pescador on the fly, a company built on one big idea that a rod light enough to disappear in your pack shouldn't mean giving up performance on the water.

Today we're going to hear how he took a six-piece fly rod from a travel backup to everyday workhorse using better blanks, tighter tolerances,

and a new factory that's

turning out rods as smooth as any four piece on the market.

We're also going to hear about this trip to Austria, how he's chasing Browns in the

Alpine Creeks of Austria, and how the fish police was his guide on this adventure.

This is a good story today.

This is the Webfly Swing podcast where we show you the best places to travel to for fly fishing, how to find the best resources and tools to prepare for that big trip, and what you can do to give back to the fish species we all love. Jeff Ditzworth is here from Pessigar on the fly, and we're going to dig into the six-piece rod design and how you can get this ready for your next travel chip

and why people are having this in their packs and their luggage, whether you're keeping this

as your main rod or your backup. We're going to talk about it and how carry on to always have

your fly rod always on you. The only way to do it is a six piece rod. Okay, let's jump into it.

Here he is. Jeff Ditzworth. You can find him at pesescador on the fly.com. How's it going, Jeff? Doing great. Doing great. How about you? Yeah, doing good, man. Just trying to look at the winter now that things are, you know, coming here on us. It's upon us, right? And I'm thinking, you know, what is the next trip? you know, winter time's here and I'm always, and I'm also thinking about Denver, right, and everything and travel and give us an update because we're going to talk about, you've been on the podcast, a couple times we'll have episodes in the show notes here. This time of year for you, is it all Black Friday? What do you think about this time of year? Oh, it's so funny. I've never been a huge, proponent of going nuts on Black Friday. I don't know. I've always felt that it's so funny. I've never been a huge, like, proponent of going nuts on Black Friday. Yep. You know, I don't know. I've always felt that it's one of those things where I love just, you know, having a good value all the time and not try to have spikes. But the industry almost demands it. So we have some stuff coming up for it. But I think we've done most of our strategic planning already. So we'll have a good offering as normal and a few different surprises out there. But yeah, it's part of it. I think I'm like you in the back of my mind. I'm always kind of like Jones in for that next trip. And right now, I don't have anything inked. So it's kind of making me get extra antsy. I don't know if you can relate to that or not. Oh yeah. Yeah, definitely. That's the challenge is the, you know, with kids

and stuff, it's just hard, it's hard to get out, right?

You want to do something, you know, and so I'm trying to figure out a way to take the kids along. That's my biggest thing. How do I get the family and all that stuff? But yeah, I think today we're going to talk about, you know, focus on really, obviously you have this amazing packable rod.

We've talked a lot about it, a six-piece rod.

It's super lightweight, just a great rod. And I think a lot of people don't understand that, right, why you would need a six-piece rod over four-piece. So we're going to talk about that a little bit, maybe get an update on if there's any updates with your product line. But we also want to get into this trip you traveled across the world to Austria to fish the Alps. I want to hear about that a little bit, too. So maybe you start with the update on the, you know, on the rods. What's new with you? Anything coming out? You want to give a shout out for people that missed that last episode? Yeah. I mean, I think we've spent most of this year kind of like rounding out the product lines, right?

So we had a really big strategic shift and we changed where we were manufacturing our rods

and we have a new state-of-the-art factory in South Korea. And we've rebuilt our entire El Hefe line,

which is primarily our, you know, traditional four-piece rods.

So we've rebuilt that entire product line.

We have a couple different six-section rods,

but L. Hefe is kind of our mid-tier line of rods. And I would say the real value proposition here is we did this product line secondary after we focused on our packable

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