Once you hear a prison in jail, you think someone bad, you think of someone bad, right?

But we've all done bad things, wrong things, right?

Just maybe haven't been caught.

The people that are there are people.

That's the first thing, and they need the same things that all of us need.

I'm sister Sue Kinsel.

I'm a sister of the Holy Cross and I've lived most of my life in South Bend, Indiana.

People don't always reach out to people who Indiana.

People don't always reach out to people who have broken the law.

And I think it takes a special person and a special quality.

My name is Maria Casmerich. I am the executive director of

the Dismiss House of South Bend. Her name is by the pay phone, her phone number.

Everybody, you know, when you say Sister Sue, in certain areas of the city,

they know who she is.

You know, Sister Sue has been known to actually protest and actually being

you know arrested and carded off to the county jail you know during the sit-in and

she would people would bond her out and she'd be so

mad because she said I don't want you to bond me out I'm trying to you know make people

aware that this is not right. The main reason most people are in jail is because they don't have the money to get out.

If you or I were there, someone would be there right away with the money.

But most people are there because they don't have the money.

You know, $500 is a lot of money.

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