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SISL7 – How Can I Be Drawn to Such Things? – Struggles in the Spiritual Life with Fr. Timothy Gallagher – Discerning Hearts Podcasts

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Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts

Christianity, Society & Culture, Philosophy, Religion & Spirituality, Spirituality

4.8558 Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2026

⏱️ 27 minutes

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How Can I Be Drawn to Such Things? – Struggles in the Spiritual Life with Fr. Timothy Gallagher O.M.V. Fr. Timothy Gallagher and Kris McGregor reflect on spiritual desolation through Beth’s story. After a draining day, she feels too discouraged to pray and instead turns to gossip, television, and social media, ending the night ashamed. ... Read more

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Dcerning Hearts.com in cooperation with the Oblates of the Virgin Mary presents

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struggles in the spiritual life, their nature and their remedies with Father Timothy Gallagher.

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Father Gallagher is the author of many best-selling books on the theology and spirituality of St.

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Ignatius of Loyola. He holds the St. Ignatius' chair of spiritual

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formation at St. John Theological Seminary in Denver, Colorado. Struggles in the spiritual life,

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their nature and their remedies, with Father Timothy Gallagher. I'm your host, Chris McGregor.

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Welcome back, Father Gallagher. I'm your host, Chris McGregor. Welcome back, Father Gallagher.

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Thank you, Chris. We are visiting one of the characters in the stories that you have presented

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to us to help us to understand what the struggles we may encounter in the spiritual life are and how we can have those

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remedies. And this character, Beth, is one that I think is so intriguing and she speaks to a tender

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place in so many hearts, doesn't she? Yes, we're just going to allow her to hold up a mirror to what we all experience

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in our own ways, you know, in this. So we'll be looking at another form of spiritual

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desolation here. So Beth has just returned home to her apartment after a long day of work

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in physical therapy. She's physically tired.

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Susan has been difficult again for her, and she's somewhat discouraged. She prepares supper,

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she has her supper, washes up, and normally at this time, as she's gotten in the habit now,

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of praying evening prayer from the liturgy of the

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hours, and then she makes an examined prayer. So with Father Reed's help, she's been learning these

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forms of prayer, and she prays them. But now there she is alone in her apartment, tired, discouraged,

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and there's the book with evening prayer, and she just doesn't

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feel like picking it up at all. She's tired, discouraged, she feels alone, she doesn't feel the warmth

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of God's love in her heart right now and doesn't really want to pray. Now, with much reverence, have any of us

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