SISL19 – Conclusion – Struggles in the Spiritual Life with Fr. Timothy Gallagher – Discerning Hearts Podcasts
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🗓️ 18 May 2026
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Fr. Timothy Gallagher and Kris McGregor reflect on the lifelong formation involved in recognizing spiritual consolation and desolation through the wisdom of St. Ignatius of Loyola.
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| 0:00.0 | Discerning Hearts.com, in cooperation with the Oblates of the Virgin Mary, presents |
| 0:06.5 | struggles in the spiritual life, their nature and their remedies with Father Timothy Gallagher. |
| 0:12.9 | Father Gallagher is the author of many best-selling books on the theology and spirituality of St. Ignatius of Loyola. |
| 0:23.0 | He holds the St. Ignatius' chair of spiritual formation at St. John Theological Seminary in Denver, Colorado. Struggles in the spiritual |
| 0:30.3 | life, their nature and their remedies with Father Timothy Gallagher. I'm your host, Chris McGregor. |
| 0:39.3 | Father Gallagher. I'm your host, Chris McGregor. Father Gallagher, over the series of conversations that we've had, we've been breaking open |
| 0:46.1 | a spiritual desolation, the non-spiritual desolation that can affect our prayer, but also, again, |
| 0:53.8 | spiritual desolation. And affect our prayer, but also again, spiritual desolation. |
| 0:55.8 | And we have been so blessed with your teachings over so many years, not only in your published |
| 1:03.1 | works, but in the podcasts that we've done. |
| 1:06.0 | And I would be remiss in not directing our listeners to the whole series that you've done on spiritual |
| 1:14.1 | desolation to kind of accompany those who are trying in prayer to just to be aware, to understand |
| 1:22.5 | and to take action. It's not necessarily something that's so easy that all of a sudden I just know it. It has |
| 1:29.4 | so many different layers, doesn't it? It's a formation for sure. And it's the difference between |
| 1:37.1 | living the spiritual life with all of this happening, consolation, desolation, all of these different |
| 1:43.0 | things, but not really being aware of it |
| 1:46.7 | and certainly not understanding a lot of it, and a spiritual life in which all of this is happening, |
| 1:52.6 | and that's normal in a healthy spiritual life. Now we have eyes to see it, and we're able to name it. |
| 1:58.9 | This is the action of the good spirit and I open my heart |
| 2:02.4 | to it. I'm strengthened by it and these are the discouraging lies of the enemy and I firmly reject |
| 2:08.0 | them. So it's really about formation in the spiritual life and I may be repeating myself here |
| 2:15.2 | but after so many years and decades now of dealing with this, |
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