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Intelligence Squared

Sir Sajid Javid – Lessons From the Front Bench (Part One)

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4.21.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2026

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

For more than a decade, Sir Sajid Javid was at the heart of power in Britain. First elected in 2010, he rapidly rose to his first cabinet position as Culture Secretary. The son of a bus driver and comprehensive school-educated, he was one of the few cabinet members from a working-class background. He went on to hold several ministerial roles under three different prime ministers including Chancellor of the Exchequer under Boris Johnson.  In February 2026 he came to the Intelligence Squared stage to share lessons from his time in government. Drawing from his new memoir The Colour of Home, he also revealed his story of a childhood marked by poverty and racism, and explored his thoughts on Britain’s multiracial society.  ---- This is the first instalment of a two-part episode. If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all our full ad free conversations, plus all of our Members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events  ...  Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series … Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content and early access. … Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet. I'm producer Mia Serente.

0:05.9

Today's episode is part one of our recent live event with Sajad Javid, former British politician

0:11.5

for the Conservative Party. Javid joined us at the Shaw Theatre in London to discuss his life

0:16.5

in politics and the lessons he learned at the heart of government. Drawing on his memoir,

0:20.7

The Colour of Home, he also shared the story of his journey from a childhood

0:24.6

shaped by poverty and racism to the highest levels of British politics and reflected on Britain's

0:30.0

multicultural society and his years serving in cabinet under three prime ministers.

0:35.3

Let's join our host, Rich Lashar now with more.

0:39.0

A brief content warning for this episode.

0:41.8

This discussion includes personal experiences of racism and discrimination

0:46.4

and contains strong language, including racist and offensive terms.

1:01.8

Good evening, everyone. Our guest tonight has had an unlikely path to the top of British politics and to the heart of government. Over the course of his career, he's held a number

1:06.9

of the great offices of state, Chancellor of the Exchequer, Home Secretary, Health Secretary,

1:13.4

Secretary of State for Business, and served under three different Prime Ministers. Welcome, Sir Sajad

1:19.3

Javid. Thank you very much. Now, I'm going to fill everyone in here tonight with a little bit of

1:23.8

your background because politics was actually the second act of your working life.

1:29.1

Before entering politics, Sajd Javid built a very successful career in international finance.

1:34.8

So two big successes, politics at cabinet level and making a not so small fortune in finance.

1:42.4

But none of this was inevitable. Sajid Javid's father arrived at Heathrow

1:47.3

from Pakistan in the early 1960s after his family lost everything during the partition of India.

1:54.6

He first settled in Rochdale and then Bristol. Sarjid's childhood, as we'll hear, was one marked by poverty, racism, and the

2:03.1

tension at times caused by trying to live between two cultures. He tells this story in his remarkable

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