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The Interview

Sir Jeremy Farrar: 'I do believe there will be a vaccine' in 2020 and 2021

The Interview

BBC

News, Politics, Government

4.3537 Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2020

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Amid the talk of spikes and second waves one thing is clear – people predicting an early end to the coronavirus pandemic are indulging in wishful thinking. Can we find a way of living with Covid-19 that respects the science while mitigating the damage being done to our economic and social lives? Stephen Sackur speaks to Sir Jeremy Farrar, director of the Wellcome Trust and a key scientific adviser to the UK government. How dangerous is the moment we’re in?

(Photo: Sir Jeremy Farrar, director of the Wellcome Trust)

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0:00.0

Welcome to Hard Talk on the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sacker. My guest today is one of the UK's

0:06.3

foremost experts on infectious diseases. Sir Jeremy Farrah has been involved in efforts to combat

0:12.7

and eradicate global threats to human health for some four decades, taking in HIV-AIDS, SARS,

0:19.7

bird flu, and now COVID-19. He is director of the Welcome Trust,

0:25.6

a major backer of scientific research here in the UK. He is also a member of the Scientific Advisory

0:33.0

Group on Emergencies, Sage, which has been advising the Boris Johnson government on its response to

0:39.9

the pandemic. With more than 46,000 COVID deaths and more than 300,000 cases, the UK's record

0:47.8

puts it close to the bottom of the European League table. The chorus of demands for an official

0:53.8

inquiry as to why is growing. But perhaps even

0:57.4

more pressing is getting the COVID response right now. The infection spreading fast in many

1:04.2

parts of the world and shows signs of re-emerging in countries which appeared to have it under control.

1:09.6

There are conflicts between the caution

1:12.0

of scientists and the eagerness of politicians to mitigate the economic and social damage done

1:18.3

by draconian restrictions. Are we getting the balance right? Well, Sir Jeremy Farrah joins me now.

1:25.2

Welcome to Hard Talk. Pleasure. Governments around the world have had

1:28.8

pretty much six months now to figure out how to get control of COVID-19. How do you think they're doing?

1:36.1

I think we face enormous challenges. We've got a virus which came across from animals into humans,

1:42.2

maybe sometime in 2019, maybe before that, to which none of us

1:46.7

have any immunity. We have no treatments, no vaccines, no diagnostic when it happened. And it's

1:52.1

very, very transmissible. It goes from me to you very easily. And so spread around the world

1:57.3

in, what, 100 days? And it was essentially in every country. So I think we face an enormous challenge. In fact, I don't believe the world really has come to understand

2:05.2

the threat that we continue to face. And isn't that the problem? Because I mentioned this six months,

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