You're listening to serious inquiries only. Oh, Hello and welcome to serious inquiries only this is episode number 55 and I'm your host Thomas Smith.

Okay, for today's episode, got something interesting for you a little different.

I had another one of the conversations in the sort of series of trying to engage people who disagree.

There's, they have been to greater and lesser effect.

I think it's been a very interesting series. This one is a little bit centered around evergreen, but I'd say the debate is more around whether or not the use of the term white-splaining or whatever it it is the variable and then explaining is

useful is bigoted is whatever so that's what this debate centers around even

though I a lot of it I guess is in the specifics of the

evergreen situation but I think that the larger debate is really what the question is here.

I was worried about doing yet another evergreen

related show so I asked my patrons who are my employers whether or not I should publish this

and 80% said yes so definitely a little bit of a minority

there that said no not worth doing another show on it that kind of thing so I

definitely acknowledge you guys and I appreciate your feedback and I understand where you're coming from so I'd say

80% though is a strong enough number that I think it's a good thing to publish

there are a lot of people who really enjoy

when I try to have someone on who disagrees

and see if I can convince them, or who knows,

maybe they can convince me.

But if you're somebody in that 20%

who doesn't want to bother with it, I suppose, maybe tune in at the end of the show afterwards.

I'm just going to say a few words about it, and you could just go for that part.

So either way, here's a debate with CJ,

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