SIO475: Greg Palast Claims the Election Was Stolen. Let's Check His Work.
Serious Inquiries Only
Thomas Smith
4.6 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 1 April 2025
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
If you're on the left and at all active on the internet, you have probably seen this shared. It's called "Trump Lost. Vote Suppression Won." Here's the first bit: "Trump lost. That is, if all legal voters were allowed to vote, if all legal ballots were counted, Trump would have lost the states of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia. Vice-President Kamala Harris would have won the Presidency with 286 electoral votes."
Dr. Jenessa Seymour has the perfect expertise to examine these claims critically. Do they hold up? We learn a ton about voting rights along the way!
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to serious inquiries only. This is episode 475. I'm your host Thomas Smith, and I'm very excited about this episode. Well, it's actually two episodes. A two-parter coming your way. Dr. Janessa Seymour is coming on the show to break down a claim that I have seen a lot of places on the internet. It's this article thing or website post or something by |
| 0:39.3 | someone named Greg Pallist, Pallast, I don't know how you'd pronounce that, that says Trump lost |
| 0:44.3 | vote suppression one. It's essentially saying that Trump stole the vote, maybe not directly Trump, |
| 0:50.1 | but Republicans or the vote was at least stolen by voter suppression. And I've seen even some of you |
| 0:55.4 | folks share it. And I really wanted to know, is there anything to this? I'll admit my bias is that I don't |
| 1:01.2 | find any of this stuff really convincing at all, just my prior because I just see that this country |
| 1:06.6 | sucks. So I don't really, it's almost weird to think like, no, actually, the vote was still, |
| 1:11.9 | it's like, I don't know. I look around. It doesn't surprise me that Trump won, I guess. But here's |
| 1:17.1 | the thing. Here's why this is so interesting and why it's two parts. Janessa, in addition to just being, |
| 1:22.1 | I think, justifiably very riled up over how frustrating this claim is and the lack of sources and shoddy work going |
| 1:30.4 | into it. It also badly misrepresents election law, something that Janessa cares a lot about, |
| 1:35.9 | obviously, and so do I and so should you. But it gets it wrong in ways that are actually |
| 1:40.3 | spreading misinformation. So even if it's not just the misinformation about Trump actually |
| 1:45.2 | lost and Kamala actually won, even if it's not just that, it's also misinformation about how |
| 1:50.7 | voting even works. And this is harmful stuff. It's bad. And Janessa's here to both walk us |
| 1:56.3 | through why these claims are nonsense and also how some very important election law actually works. |
| 2:02.0 | This is a great, really fascinating educational deep dive. |
| 2:05.1 | Why don't we just get to it? |
| 2:06.3 | We'll take our break. |
| 2:07.1 | Hey, avoid the break at patreon.com slash seriouspot and support the show. |
| 2:10.9 | Support stuff like this. |
| 2:12.2 | It means a lot. |
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