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Thomas Smith all right today's interview is actually a more of a debate with

someone who disagreed with me on Canadian bill C16 the one I've talked about a number of times that Jordan B Peterson

is an activist over and is making $30,000 on Patreon a month, just in case anyone was wondering,

because of complaining about how his rights will be

infringed by a very nonsense minor thing but anyway that you'll hear me

discuss that a little bit but this was a discussion, it's important to me to engage with people who disagree.

It's very important to me.

It's, I do not want to ever create an echo chamber.

It's not always easy, it's not always practical, and you know, lots of times I want to be doing interviews with whoever I think is interesting regardless of their views and I want to be talking about politics and news and all that. So it's not 100% of my my show but it is something that I do think is integral to

the show which is actually engaged with people who disagree and try to reach the other side or or and by the way or I'll change my mind you know I've said it a number of times I feel like lately but I just am not afraid of having conversations because either I'm right which that's cool it's fun being right. Or I'm wrong and then I can just evaluate and think,

oh well, I guess I'm wrong about this

and then I get to be right immediately.

I know, I don't know if that's corny or if that's too optimistic, but that really is how I feel about it.

Like it's not that hard.

I mean, it's surprises me how little people want to actually have these discussions.

It's kind of depressing, but I'm going to do my best.

And with that said, here's my conversation with

Pithy Joe on Twitter who had a different view. It was kind of a Jordan B Peterson fan and we'll see how that goes. This took place on May 4th. I referenced it and it has been patron only, but a lot of people called for it, they wanted it, and upon listening

to it and editing it, I do find, I do think this is a really valuable discussion to learn from as an example. And if you know anyone who is a Jordan B Peterson fan

you might point them to this interview and and well you'll listen first I'll talk to you

after here's the debate with AtPithy Joe. Jo. at Pithy Joe Joe on Twitter, otherwise known as K-Men Synthesizer, but that changes from time to time.

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