And the Hello and welcome to serious inquiries only this is episode 450 I'm your

I'm your host Thomas Smith got a really interesting one for you today. So I was talking to a listener, actually of opening arguments, and she said a number of things that I found frankly astonishing that made me very eager to interview her on this show.

For one, we were talking about how she's been working for about a year in a prosecutor's

office.

Not going to say exactly where to keep, you know, anonymity and all that, but in a very

conservative place, but she's a progressive trying to kind of make a difference, which already

that's fascinating. I wanted to hear more about that.

And then she said, she voted for Trump in 2016.

And so then I thought, okay, now I really need to hear this story because I just feel like it's so rare these days to hear

from anyone who genuinely changes their mind and I found that really interesting to not only

change your mind like that like she clearly has but also go from in pretty short order a Trump

voter in 2016 to someone making an actual difference. I don't know if on the ground is like the right phrase for it,

but like working within the system

to try to make it better.

So it's a conversation in two parts in a way

because I really wanted to hear about how she went from being a Trump voter to

changing her mind and in the process I talk about you know my journey from being

a Republican to now being raised a Republican I should say to now.

And I think it's a story of two people coming to terms with,

you know, whiteness, I don't know, being raised in that mold

and coming to terms with ultimately the inadequacy and dishonesty of that worldview.

So I hope you find that interesting. And then in the later part we talk about her actual job as in the prosecutor's office where she is.

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