And the Hello and welcome to serious inquiries only. This is episode 425 and I'm your

host Thomas Smith and today's episode oh this is going to be so relevant to all of you I imagine so I'm pretty sure I have a mostly atheist audience and I'm also pretty sure I have a very science loving audience and this is perfect because today's

guest is someone who is studying spirituality but with science. So can people get the same

sort of reported spiritual feelings and experiences, the important ones, can they get that from science?

And how would that work and what would that mean?

It's a really cool study.

There's a lot to talk about and like I said it couldn't be more relevant to this

audience this exact audience so we'll be joined by Dr. Jesse Preston got a

PhD in Social Psychology from Harvard University and has done a lot of work around this exact area.

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Dr. Jesse Preston, how you doing today?

I'm very well, thanks.

I'm excited to talk to you.

This is a really cool topic, especially for my audience, I think, in particular, because, you you know we're a bunch of crazy science

loving people so if it's if it's science and positive effects on mental health

then this is this is the audience for you. Well that's great I'm

excited too. Well before we get to that would you mind going into a little bit of

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