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SIO301: Evidence Based Mental Healthcare, with Dr. Caleb Lack

Serious Inquiries Only

Thomas Smith

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 July 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Today Lindsey and I are joined by Dr. Caleb Lack. Caleb is a full professor of psychology at the University of Central Oklahoma, and he's here to talk about evidence based mental healthcare. When it comes to treatment, what is actually evidence based and what is unsupported at best and pseudoscience at worst? Also, find out how Caleb trolled a predatory academic journal!

Check out Caleb's book, Critical Thinking, Science, and Pseudoscience.

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0:00.0

Hello, and welcome to Series Inquiries. Only this is episode 301. I'm Thomas, and I'm joined

0:17.8

as always by Dr. Lindsay Osterman, and we have a guest. So Lindsay, do you want to introduce

0:23.6

our guest today? So yes, our guest today is my current friend and former colleague, Dr.

0:28.8

Caleb Lack, who is a full professor of clinical psychology at the University of Central Oklahoma.

0:34.4

Thanks so much for talking with us today, Caleb. I'm excited. Yeah, I'm happy to be here,

0:38.3

thanks for having me on. That is awesome, because I'm a basket case. So I think this will be a great

0:44.4

combination. How to work up her. I knew Lindsay was, so I figured if she was working with someone,

0:53.1

it'd be pretty similar. That's so sweet, Caleb. So do you want to start out by telling us just

1:00.6

a little bit about your training and your background? Sure, so like you said, Lindsay, I'm a

1:05.8

clinical psychologist. I started graduate school the 20 years ago this fall, actually.

1:11.9

So I've been in the field for a little while, and during graduate school, my emphasis in terms

1:20.0

of both research and clinical work moved more and more towards severe anxiety-based issues

1:26.6

and obsessive-compulsive and related issues. So I do a lot of work with kind of what we call

1:32.7

intractable obsessive-compulsive disorder, ticks and Tourettes, social anxiety, panic attacks,

1:41.5

and then also fun assorted things that are related like what they used to call conversion

1:47.8

disorder, but now we call functional neurological disorder. So that's kind of where a lot of my

1:53.1

good is that? I don't know. I don't think I know either of those terms. So conversion disorder is

1:59.6

where you are expressing physiological distress in a physiological way. So I've treated folks with

2:09.1

that who presented initially as having things like epilepsy or severe motor ticks, paralysis,

2:17.8

trouble with sight, like I can't see part of the times, things like that. And it's a psychological

2:23.5

cause? Yeah, yeah. So we rule out all potential physiological causes first, and then they usually

2:31.3

have been neurologists say, well, why don't you go see this guy? And there I go. And I'm like,

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