You're listening to? Serious inquiries only.

Hello and welcome to Serious Inquiries only. I'm Thomas and I'm once again

joined by Dr. Lindsay Osterman. Lindsay, how are you doing?

How am I? I am deeply troubled by the spread of harmful scientific misinformation, Thomas. How are you?

Yeah, that's a good answer. That's a good science answer. All right folks, here's the deal.

Lindsay was kind enough. I'm going to go ahead and say you're, you're like Jesus except better.

That's my words. You don't have to endorse that message.

I almost called you Ginzy. Lindsay was kind enough to read a book by a horrible person full of

transphobia for us. But importantly, this is by a doctor Debra So who has a degree in a relevant

field. So it's like dangerous scientific nonsense. And the book is called The End of Gender,

debunking the myths about sex and identity in our society. I read an excerpt of it.

And it is so poorly written that I cannot believe you read a whole book of this.

And I would like to apologize from the bottom of my heart.

You know, I appreciate that because I'm really sorry that I read this entire book too.

I mean, I'm glad I'm glad to be doing this right now because I think we should mention that the reason

this was on our radar in the first place is Richard Dawkins signal boosted this book on Twitter.

But Lindsay, if even half of it is true, if even half of it is true, that was the,

do you have the tweet pulled up? Should I pull it up? I do have the tweet pulled up.

He says just finished the end of gender. My doctor Debra So strongly recommended.

If even half is true of what she said about the intimidation of scientists in her field of

sociology, we need to support the fight back. If even half of it is true, yeah.

And I just did a satirical like, oh, I just finished something called the protocols

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