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SIO280: A Scientific Case for Repressed Memory?

Serious Inquiries Only

Thomas Smith

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 25 February 2021

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

After last week's episode with Carrie Poppy, I got a number of responses saying we might have been a little too dismissive of the evolutionary case for repressed memory. As it turns out, Dr. Jennifer Freyd, has developed a theory that could account for something like it. Yes, that Jennifer Freyd, the accuser whose story was told in The Cut's article that started this whole thing! The entire situation is as fascinating as it is tragic for virtually everyone involved, but Dr. Lindsey Osterman is here to give us a more complete understanding of the science!

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0:00.0

You're listening to? Serious inquiries only.

0:10.0

Hello and welcome to Serious inquiries only. This is episode 280. I'm Thomas. That's Dr.

0:35.0

Lindsay Ostriman. How are you doing? Look, again, I've delivered no babies. I don't know. That we know of. Yeah, true.

0:44.0

It was a one time college. Yeah, I don't know what that's delivered. One baby in college. Yeah, no, I want to say that though, because we got a question. This was one that we answered on the stream. And I apologies to the emailer because once I mark off that I did something, I have no way of finding it in my 10,000 million emails.

1:02.0

Apologies for that, but someone sent a very thoughtful email about mentioning and using Dr. Lindsay Ostriman. And it's absolutely valid. I introduced you that way. When we first started recording, then I think you and I both kind of think of these things as an ongoing series.

1:20.0

And so then sometimes we just go, hey, Lindsay's back. But I think it's very important because a lot of people don't listen to every episode. A lot of people just check in here and there. And I think it's important to do that introduction each and every time. So I will remember to do that. I think there was a great email. And what do you think, Doc?

1:38.0

I mean, that sounds lovely. I'm totally open to that. And yeah, that email was also cool because he mentioned the response that we did about the Dunning Kruger effect. And he is. So if people want to hear more about that, then like go watch the video of that stream because it was like, yeah, I really appreciate it.

1:54.0

Yeah, it's good email. Sorry that that kind of got lost in that weird shuffle. I tried to do. But anyway, we're here to talk, do a follow up on the repressed memory thing.

2:04.0

There's some interesting stuff to talk about regarding the science of that. I hadn't really intended to have carry on to delve too much into the science. We need to just cover it a little bit.

2:13.0

But I'm more wanted to hear about Carrie's experience and her interest. And she explained the science pretty well. But it turns out there's there are lots of interesting questions there.

2:20.0

We had a number of emails and messages. And our own Dr. Lindsay Asterman has looked into it. And I'm excited to talk about it.

2:28.0

Yeah. Yeah. No, this has been a fascinating journey. I say I'm still on this journey. So I'm going to fill you in on where I am so far.

2:38.0

But I actually don't know at this point what I think about about this topic. And I wasn't expecting that.

2:46.0

So, yeah, a couple of people reached out to you and made sort of offered a similar kind of pushback, right?

2:54.0

So I thought that Carrie did a fantastic job in the last episode. Everything she talked about is consistent with what I know about what happened in the 80s.

3:02.0

And this horrible thing that came out of, I think it was. Hair metal. She did a whole thing on hair metal and all that. It was very well done. You agree with all that.

3:13.0

I totally did. It's kind of bullshit music. Don't let me say that or I will be fired from opening arguments.

3:21.0

No, the satanic panic and all that stuff, right? Yeah.

3:24.0

Yeah, exactly. There were some really horrific things that were uncovered there about memories being planted.

3:31.0

And so what I'm not going to do is say that any of that is wrong because it's not. And Elizabeth Loftus' work that you guys talked about

3:39.0

was super important in sort of demonstrating proof of concept about how those memories can get implanted. And as it turns out,

3:45.0

our memories are a lot more malleable than we think they are. And that's an important thing for everybody to know.

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