You're listening to serious inquiries only. Oh, Hello and welcome to the great crossover event. Serious Inquiries on the opening arguments crossover.

I'm Thomas of course.

How's it going Andrew?

It is going fantastic, Thomas.

You've got your peanut butter in my chocolate.

Well, I don't know how I did that with social distancing,

but we're also joined by a special guest, James Rogers.

How are you doing, James?

Good, good.

How are you guys?

I'm doing great.

Andrew always says he's fantastic, but I feel like the news was maybe like not as fantastic this week, but we'll see.

So we've got so much to, I'll do a little bit of explanation for what we're doing here because we have so much going on

over at opening arguments. There's this was a major newsweek but we also wanted to

cover this George Pell News, Cardinal Pell News, but also since I had done an episode on SIO about George

Pell back before when, you know, when, before whatever just happened happened happened we'll say that and so it made

sense to do a follow-up and do a little crossover event and so thankful for both of

you for for being here but as I've alluded to, the news doesn't seem good to me. Maybe

there will be some spin on it. Maybe James will do his best Andrew impression

and tell us why this is okay even though it seems like it's not or maybe it's just not we'll find out

but in either case James why don't you go ahead and maybe give a brief introduction to who you are and

so listeners can get to know you and then we'll

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