You're listening to serious inquiries only. Oh, Hello and welcome to serious inquiries only this is episode 212. I'm Thomas. That's Jamie. How you doing, Jamie?

I'm okay, Thomas, how are you?

Oh, wow. I'm excited for this episode, but I don't know what to think because I don't know I had seen the you know some of the controversy around

Joker and the fact that it seemed from what I was seeing to be the kind of thing that, you know, is maybe going to be the

tale of the loner, white guy who's in acts, exacts revenge on society and that kind of thing.

And I thought, you know, this is going to be a kind of change of pace for this show we can we can watch this movie and do some analysis on it do some you know give some opinions and you were down and I'm so glad you were game to do it except that meant

I had to follow through and actually watch it as well but then I watched it now I

don't know what to think and we were starting to talk about it, you and I,

before recording, and we were thinking,

let's just talk, we don't really know

what each other is gonna think on this.

Let's just talk it out, see where it goes.

So we watched Joker.

So that you don't have to unless you still want to. That's fine.

But I do think that we'll have to, you know, I I certainly respect the sanctity of spoilers and I don't want to I'm not going to

launch into anything without first giving warning that I do believe we will have

to spoil the movie in order to talk about it in any meaningful way.

So if that's something that is going to break your heart, feel free to pause, come back to this later

after you've seen it. But I will also say if you're on the fence about it, that it's not, you know, it's not,

the spoilers don't really matter, like it's not, this is not the sixth sense or anything, like it's not,

you know, I personally, of of the on the scale of things

where it's like oh you don't want to get this spoiled for you this is like a zero for me

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