You're listening to serious inquiries only. I'm Thomas Smith that over there is

Jamie Lumbardi how you doing Jamie I'm doing all right Thomas how are you?

Well do it just overwhelmed I'd say mean, there's a lot of news lately. This is a there's a lot going on.

There's there's Trump news that we can all be happy about for now and we'll hopefully continue to be happy

about but also today's topic that we want to talk about is a bit overwhelming.

Are you excited to talk about this?

I am so grossed out by this whole topic.

I am ready.

I'm excited to purge the filth that I feel is flowing through my body.

That's a good description of what we should do.

So here's what, I'll just, I'll speak for me,

obviously don't speak for anybody else, I speak for me. I do have to first say, so we're going to talk about David Silverman

and what's going on with him, what, you know, what happened, what he's saying, what other people

are saying. I have to make a quick disclaimer subsequent to

this whole thingy. Andrew Torres, my friend and co-host over on opening arguments,

became a board member of American Atheist, the organization that

David Silverman was fired from, and he absolutely 1,000 percent can't talk to me, can't talk to anybody, can't put anything publicly out there about this.

So he has not, I just want to make it absolutely clear, sure we're friends and coworkers, but

this is all me and my research from the internet and talking to a few people. None of this comes from

him. He won't talk to me about it because he's a lawyer and he knows the law and he's

not going to even chance it. So that's that. I want to disclose that to just make that disclaimer. This is all me. This is my thing and anything Jamie says is her thing and that's it.

So that being said, that awkward disclaimer aside,

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