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Hello and welcome to Serious Inquiries only.

This is episode 186 and I'm your host Thomas Smith.

All right, today I have on the show Jake Far Wharton back again.

Finally, it's been a long time.

But Jake is on to talk about something, I mean, it's been a long time but Jake is on to talk about something I mean it's kind of a

sensitive topic I guess a little bit of a content warning it does involve a discussion of

some of the sexual abuse charges against Catholic priests in Australia, but don't worry, we don't, it's not, you know, gory or anything.

There's not, we don't go into detail on it or anything, but that is the topic. And Jake is here for a couple interesting issues and things he's going to talk to us about.

One, kind of give us the background on the Cardinal Pell situation.

So that's one thing.

And then also, as a result of that, there's a really interesting ethical question

that Jake wanted to explore and talk to us about because people and certain

actually very powerful people in Australia wrote kind of character references

for Cardinal Pell and it turns out that back when

Jake was a Catholic a similar thing happened to him I'll let him tell it but very

interesting ethical question.

So all that plus a little more.

We also talk about, you know, what do we do with the,

with the, be it the art, be at the,

whatever it is, the good things that bad people have created and that maybe were important to us.

We delve into that a bit at the end.

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