You're listening to serious inquiries only. Oh, Hello and welcome to serious inquiries only this is 183. I'm your host Thomas Smith and this is coming a little late to you folks. Sorry I had to do the old switch a rue with opening arguments because of Andrew's schedule. So apologies for the delay. And also it's just one of those weeks

where it's tough to make an episode. You know I was due to do a voicemail episode. I'm not sure I'll get to them.

I didn't have as many as I normally have so maybe I'm maybe I'm not

talking about controversial enough stuff or something but we'll see if I get to that but that's okay

because I want to talk about

Stepan Clark. I'm sure I did an episode about this last year when it happened. It's been about a year and

Stepan Clark was killed in his grandmother's backyard by police. I'll go through all the details again just in case people didn't follow it at the time.

But anyway, recently it was decided that there would be no charges for the two officers who killed him and

they're also during that presentation some stuff happened that I find pretty disturbing

so there's a lot I want to talk about it's but it's just one of those topics that's never, I never feel fully prepared or fully, I don't know, like it's just one of those tough topics, you know, so it's, I guess I've been a little hesitant and

recording but I need to because you know I have some stuff I want to say about it so first I want to

rehash the details I'm sure I did this a year ago but I think it's even there's even more clear of a picture now,

although it's still a little murky in places.

There's a really good New York Times explanation I can link to, but essentially what happened was someone called 911 reported that somebody had been

breaking car windows and possibly like a back door window.

And so police respond.

And you know, something that I just never really thought of last year

when I talked about this, that it's funny,

it only it took until I was reading an article by Jamil Smith for the Rolling Stone.

And I never even thought about the fact that there's a...

This is literally broken windows policing at its most extreme here

I'll just I'll just quote this because this is great by Jamil Smith quote what

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